Richard Davies wrote: The UK has a good crop of technology pioneers in cloud computing - for example ElasticHosts, FlexiScale, Flexiant, OnApp - and also some strong government initiatives such as G-Cloud.
We will have to see whether this kind of technical leadership converts into swift mass-market adoption or not.
HP's profit shortfall warning last week made mention of the problems the company had experienced combining two SAP systems, one belonging to HP and the other to Compaq, the company it acquired two years ago.
Now Sun's president and COO Jonathan Schwartz has taken up the theme, exploiting the fact that the industry may be puzzled what HP's problem is since HP and Compaq both ran back-office software made by the same company.
"HP's problem? It ain't the SAP install," blogs Schwartz. "And it's not related to the cancellation of PA-RISC, or weakness in their Itanium transition. Or even Dell's printer onslaught."
Here is Schwartz's diagnosis:
"To me, HP's problems spawn from the death of... their operating system, HP/UX. Like IBM, they've elected to ask their customers and ISVs to move to Red Hat Linux or Microsoft Windows on x86 systems. And if you're an ISV, how does that differentiate HP? - they're a box vendor. If you're a customer, where does that leave you with your HP/UX investments? Facing untimely change - with a vendor no longer in charge of their OS."
It is at this point that Schwartz directs his attention, and that of his readers, to Solaris - which he also reminds the world Sun is committed to open-source:
"As you well know, our operating system, Solaris, continues to set land speed records on SPARC, while branching into new territory on x86 - and it's the least expensive in the industry. I continue to hear customers disappointed in the realization that ISV's don't qualify to "linux" (or specifically, Fedora) - so they have to pay big bucks for RHEL if they want commercial support. And while HP stumbles into that reality, our commitment to Solaris (did I mention we're open sourcing it - check out http://www.blastwave.org) highlights the demise of HP/UX. HP/UX won't even run on HP's own industry standard servers."
Schwartz continues: "As an ISV told me last week, 'I come to Sun, you tell me to write to Java, then write to Solaris. Clear as a bell.' If you're an HP customer or ISV, have some fun, ask your HP rep the same question - 'what should I write to?'"
That, Schwartz argues, lies at the heart if HP's problems. Not the fact its long planned switch to new SAP software went awry, causing orders disruption and forcing it to ship some orders via air rather than ground.
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Ok, what the hell is Sun''s problem them? $3 pennystock, and they''re still pumping their proprietary crap Solaris? Read the writings on the wall already, stupid Sun!
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HPcustomer commented on 20 Aug 2004
FWIW I have personally experienced HP''s backlog of "lost" orders relating to their system cutover. There''s no reason for them to not ship $20,000 of servers and a $300,000 SAN other then some order fulfillment problems. A few calls got the order shipped. It''s running fine now, but there definately were system problems between the booked orders and the order fulfillment process.
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Todd commented on 18 Aug 2004
HPUX is not dead, your mis-informed. HPUX runs on IA64 and PARISC architecture. HP-UX is the go forward Unix for HP. HP is intergrating some of the great features from tru64 into the operating system. HP also runs Linux and Microsoft.
You should get your facts straight.
#3
Blog Power commented on 17 Aug 2004
Surely this is no coincidence (from just yesterday):
Santa Clara, Calif.-based Sun said it would offer no-payment and no-interest purchase plans until 2005 in order to help customers that use H-P Unix-based servers switch to the Sun servers.
This is just Schwartz "power-blogging" again!
#2
GreA commented on 17 Aug 2004
Skeptics might say that by open-sourcing Solaris they can start some serious cutbacks since a large amount of the OS can be handled by the community. In other words this might be a major cost cutting move motivated to save Sun. Still, what's not to like: Solaris has probably the best security and stability out of any of the widely used *nix's. Not to mention the superior threading of the actual OS and its core.
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Free/Libre Solaris? commented on 17 Aug 2004
Sun's idea of "open source" is sometimes a peculiar one. What license will Solaris be OSed with?
bob wrote: Ok, what the hell is Sun''s problem them? $3 pennystock, and they''re still pumping their proprietary crap Solaris? Read the writings on the wall already, stupid Sun!
HPcustomer wrote: FWIW I have personally experienced HP''s backlog of "lost" orders relating to their system cutover. There''s no reason for them to not ship $20,000 of servers and a $300,000 SAN other then some order fulfillment problems. A few calls got the order shipped. It''s running fine now, but there definately were system problems between the booked orders and the order fulfillment process.
Todd wrote: HPUX is not dead, your mis-informed. HPUX runs on IA64 and PARISC architecture. HP-UX is the go forward Unix for HP. HP is intergrating some of the great features from tru64 into the operating system. HP also runs Linux and Microsoft.
You should get your facts straight.
Blog Power wrote: Surely this is no coincidence (from just yesterday):
Santa Clara, Calif.-based Sun said it would offer no-payment and no-interest purchase plans until 2005 in order to help customers that use H-P Unix-based servers switch to the Sun servers.
This is just Schwartz "power-blogging" again!
GreA wrote: Skeptics might say that by open-sourcing Solaris they can start some serious cutbacks since a large amount of the OS can be handled by the community. In other words this might be a major cost cutting move motivated to save Sun. Still, what's not to like: Solaris has probably the best security and stability out of any of the widely used *nix's. Not to mention the superior threading of the actual OS and its core.
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