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Java Updater: Sun and Google Are as Bad as Apple
Viewpoint: If there were ever a reason for a law to be passed, this is it.

Bob Plankers' Blog

The ever-annoying, ever-moronic[*]  Java Updater popped up today and prompted me to update. I indulged it, figuring there was probably some new gaping security hole again.

What did I find as I proceeded? It wanted to install the Google Toolbar. Did I have the Google Toolbar already installed? No. So why is the default action to install it, unless I opt out?

Apple’s taken some heat lately for their decision to push Safari to anybody who runs their Apple Software Update utility. I didn’t want Safari, but unless I opt out of it I’ll get it. Now Sun and Google are doing the same thing with the Google Toolbar. Users know that if they don’t update their software they’ll get hacked, and Sun, Google, and Apple abuse that by pushing unwanted applications (Safari) and spyware (Google Toolbar) to systems that didn’t already have it. It isn’t enough that they allow you to opt-out. They do this knowing that most users aren’t going to opt out, either because they don’t know any better or because they miss the option.

If there was ever a reason for a law to be passed, this is it.

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[*] Ever-moronic because the updater seems to like starting two, three, or four copies of itself, all sitting in my system tray. Maybe they think that I’ll be more inclined to update if the updater takes over the entire bottom of my screen.

About Bob Plankers
Bob Plankers blogs as The Lone Sysadmin at http://lonesysadmin.net/.

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I administer over 300 computers at a school. I need to update Java regularly to keep applications some of our server side applications running. Google toolbar slows many of the dinosaur aged systems I can't afford to replace. Why can't Sun just include a switch to deselect Google when running the executable offline in silent mode. I have not been able to find any way to opt out of the installation when running it from a script.

Stop your whinning and uncheck it. Better yet totally remove Java from your computer!

Well, as for multiples, sounds like an install problem. I have a machine that I have multiple copies of JDK and JRE installed over time (and some not removed for testing purposes) and only one updater runs.
As for the opt out by default being what SHOULD be required - I agree wholeheartedly.

Even working for Sun.. I totally agree an detest this stupidness

I hate to say it, but this functionality has been nothing new. This was introduced sometime in the later updates of the 1.5 JRE. This is nothing new for the industry either, install the latest version of flash and you'll find the same thing.

I don't care who does it: Microsoft, Sun, Apple, Google, Real, Adobe, Roxio.
Any software company that presumes to install background processes on my machine without explicitly begging for my permission earns my animosity, resentment and cynicism. Bastard coated bastards with bastard filling, they are.
Mozilla, you earn my highest respect and kudos for the class and elegance by which you handle the update process.


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Skip wrote: I administer over 300 computers at a school. I need to update Java regularly to keep applications some of our server side applications running. Google toolbar slows many of the dinosaur aged systems I can't afford to replace. Why can't Sun just include a switch to deselect Google when running the executable offline in silent mode. I have not been able to find any way to opt out of the installation when running it from a script.
Chris wrote: Stop your whinning and uncheck it. Better yet totally remove Java from your computer!
darted wrote: Well, as for multiples, sounds like an install problem. I have a machine that I have multiple copies of JDK and JRE installed over time (and some not removed for testing purposes) and only one updater runs. As for the opt out by default being what SHOULD be required - I agree wholeheartedly.
Sun emp wrote: Even working for Sun.. I totally agree an detest this stupidness
Paul Allen wrote: I hate to say it, but this functionality has been nothing new. This was introduced sometime in the later updates of the 1.5 JRE. This is nothing new for the industry either, install the latest version of flash and you'll find the same thing.
JimBen wrote: I don't care who does it: Microsoft, Sun, Apple, Google, Real, Adobe, Roxio. Any software company that presumes to install background processes on my machine without explicitly begging for my permission earns my animosity, resentment and cynicism. Bastard coated bastards with bastard filling, they are. Mozilla, you earn my highest respect and kudos for the class and elegance by which you handle the update process.
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